58 – Karl and Laura – Shame, Organized Religion and Such

After listening to Jason Elam and his conversation with Wm. Paul Young on the Messy Spirituality podcast, we were inspired to get vulnerable and talk about some things.

We ventured into:

    • Dr. Paul Fitzgerald’s 3 keys to healing from shame.
    • How shame isolates in the organized church
    • The system of organized religion and how we need to change
    • The Jesus and prayer and my struggles with it (not necessarily bad)
    • What’s coming up for us – we’re writing a book!

Thanks for listening in



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