What is it about organized religion that is dangerous? Jason Elam and Karl and Laura discuss their experience with hurt in their ministry experience. Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What…
Which of the services of the church are still necessary? This week we talk with co-host, Kyle Butler. Jason Elam has graciously organized a fundraiser for my stroke recovery. Please decide if you can donate, share or help in another way. This is going to be a long journey and we are committed to it.…
Jason steps in to help us talk about being addicted to church. Organized religion is designed to attract people. It IS addictive. Then Monday, the high wears off and we start pre-using, dreaming about going back. Of course we like it, just like I used to like sodas-I was addicted to it. We took Cindy…
So, here we go! This begins our serious on our soon-to be published book, “Out Into the Desert.” The subtitle of the book is Thriving Outside Organized Religion. It is not an attack on religion, it is a review, mostly of Christianity. It is also some of our experience as pastors for 20 years. The…
I love every conversation I have with Jason Elam. I attempted to interview him, but he is good at turning questions around. Even though we are the best of friends, we don’t see everything exactly the same, but we usually end up talking about organized religion. Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide…
We’ve been waiting a while to talk to Dallas Verity. He and Blair have had some amazing interviews on their podcast, Shipwreck Over Safety. But we got to know them more through our conversations on various broadcasts over the years including The Desert Sanctuary. When I knew we were going to talk, I kept seeing…
Recently we were asked to contribute to a parenting book. Now that we are grandparents, we can at least summarize what worked for us and what didn’t. Parenting is a daunting task with many confusing voices offering their opinion on what might work. In the end, the best we can do is follow our heart…
So, Karl why don’t you just leave religion alone and pursue what you want to pursue? Because religion is part of my roots and religion affects people. I know that people involved in organized religion don’t have evil intentions, but the system is systemically inadequate to deal with the trauma that it often creates. Please…
Some Christians like to imagine they are under attack, but maybe they are under review. This week we talk about a comment Karl heard on TicToc from Pastor Joseph Yoo. We also talk about Vulnerability and Bravery and a quote from Brene Brown. It’s always good to talk to Jason! Order Being or the The…
How is fear propagated in the church? How can we get past fear? Why are boundaries important? · Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now! Website: https://karlforehand.com/· https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What…
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