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Zack has spent the last decade writing about the interplay of faith and politics in the public sphere on his eponymous blog, Substack, and Patheos as well as contributing articles to multiple publications. He’s also made appearances in Rolling Stone, The Boston Globe, Huffington Post, and various other media outlets. He is the author of…
Emily Elizabeth Anderson is a Christian blogger and trauma recovery advocate for people who have experienced abuse within a Christian environment. After growing up in a fundamentalist cult for 23 years and experiencing childhood domestic violence, Emily began her journey to recovery in 2015 and eventually found Jesus to be her ultimate healer. She soon…
Daryl Carlson is a Certified Meta-Coach & NLP Master Practitioner who loves to help people free themselves from the deep indoctrination of Christianity. He knows that challenge all too well having been indoctrinated from birth, biblically trained at Moody Bible Institute, and worked for 15 years as a missionary in Alaska, Russia, and Ukraine. Daryl…
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Amber started really evaluating her faith in her early 20s, and it’s continuing to grow through all difficulties from leaving a cult. After many years of deconstructing, she decided to start her social media presence to give voice to cult survivors and give a space for others to not feel alone. Fundie Freed Facebook *…
Justin is an ex-vangelical, certified hypnotist, and trauma-informed coach who is passionate about change work and psycho-spiritual healing. After realizing that the church and religion didn’t have the answers to his deep pain and sense of inadequacy, Justin began to search outside of the church and deconstruct his deeply held core beliefs. It was in…
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Sheri was born with two extreme and violent parents. Her father was a drug dealing ex-con once nominated to be a Grand Dragon in the KKK. Her mom was a speaking-in-tongues, book-burning, evangelical. He terrorized her and her mom demonized her. It took her until she was 27 years old to realize that what was…
Jodi and Jesse were both raised in the Pentecostal church. Jesse’s family was heavily involved in their local Church of God. Jodi’s parents were evangelists; her aunt, uncles, and grandparents were pastors in the Assembly of God denomination. They met when Jodi’s parents stopped traveling and became pastors at the AG church Jesse’s family attended.…
Bruce Epperly has served as a university and seminary professor, university chaplain, and local church pastor. He is the author of over 70 books, including Process Theology: Embracing Adventure with God, The Elephant is Running: Process and Open and Relational Theology and Religious Pluralism, One World: Process Theology and the Lord’s Prayer, and Prophetic Healing:…
Joshua Lawson is a former pastor who holds a Bachelor of Arts in Biblical Studies. He is the author of The Face of Addiction, which tells the story of twelve individuals whose lives were forever changed in the early days of the opioid crisis in central Appalachia. His latest book, Drugs & Jesus, is the…
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Chad Bahl is a DThM candidate at Northwind Theological Seminary, where he specializes in the study of Open and Relational Theology. Bahl is the author of God Unbound: An Evangelical Reconsiders Tradition in Search of Truth and author/editor of Deconstructing Hell: Open and Relational Responses to the Doctrine of Eternal Conscious Torment. Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert…
Dr. Mark Gregory Karris is a licensed marriage and family therapist in full-time private practice in San Diego, California. He specializes in religious trauma, men’s issues, and couples therapy. He is a husband, father, and recording artist. Mark is the author of the best-selling books Divine Echoes: Reconciling Prayer with the Un-controlling Love of God and Religious…
Vanessa R Brooks is a wife, mom, grandmother, and fur-baby mom. She is a Doctoral candidate, thought-leader, humanitarian, and entrepreneur. Vanessa served in the public sector in the social services industry, and pastor a church she founded for 14 years. She is the founder of Life After Church, a spiritual community where she provides spiritual…
Phil Drysdale is a public speaker, podcaster, researcher and coach specialising in the area of Deconstruction. For over a decade he’s helped people navigate the painful journey beyond their faith tradition. He does research into the Deconstruction community through The Deconstruction Network, runs a regular podcast about Deconstruction, provides free resources to help people on…
Elizabeth Urban is a professional psychic and natural Witch. She has been intuitive all her life and has loved metaphysics and the occult since childhood. Self taught from the age of 13, she learned all things centered around the Craft, astrology, Tarot, etc. She lives in coastal North Carolina with her husband and sons. Facebook *…
Kerri Hummingbird, Soul Guide and host of Soul Nectar Show, is the #1 international best-selling author of “The Second Wave: Transcending the Human Drama” (on the charts for over 138 weeks!) and the award-winning best-selling book “Awakening To Me: One Woman’s Journey To Self Love” which describes the early years of her spiritual awakening. Ms. Hummingbird inspires people to…
(In her own words) I am a native New Yorker who is now living in the UK from Newport Beach, CA, by way of Minneapolis and the South of France. I travel often to speak and teach, but also to discover new things, people and places. I love Instagram and cocktails. I learn as much…
To most who know her, Kiersten Hathcock is a former TV marketing exec and TEDx speaker turned Shark Tank-winning, self-taught carpenter & furniture designer who built an internationally-known kids’ furniture company out of her LA garage. Behind the scenes; however, Kiersten privately struggled to survive and heal from childhood sexual abuse and narcissistic abuse all while grappling with newfound mediumship…
Siri K. Zemel, PhD is an advocate for integrative healing, including the incorporation of spiritual experiences alongside traditional healthcare. Dr. Zemel received her PhD in Mind Body Medicine from Saybrook University, with a concentration in healthcare systems. She holds a Master’s Degree in nutrition science with a graduate minor in counseling psychology from the University…
Dave the Mystic (David Barnett) is an energy medicine practitioner, healer and intuitive with over 40 years' experience in Colorado. He has multiple technical degrees and is truly a rocket scientist. In the early 1980 & 90’s, Dave had some turning points in his life that led to a passion in discovering and developing his…
Stefanie Caponi (she/her) is a Colorado-based astrologer, tarot reader, illustrator, and best-selling author of Guided Tarot, Guided Tarot for Teens, and the newly released Guided Tarot Box Set which includes a copy of Guided Tarot and a 78 card Rider Waite Smith tarot deck. Her work is centered around exploring shadow work, healing, and creativity using tarot and astrology as a…
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This begins our Things We Don’t Understand series. Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert Book: The Hotel Book: Being Book: The Being Journey companion guide Book: The Tea Shop Book: Apparent Faith Email: Karl at karl4hand@gmail.com Email Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com Twitter: @karl4hand YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@karl4hand42
Steve and Amy found themselves in a high-control religion that damaged the relationship with their daughter. This is their uncut story of pain and struggle as they attempt to move forward. Steve * Amy Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert Book: The Hotel Book: Being Book: The Being Journey companion guide Book: The Tea…
Jim Palmer is an author, activist, speaker, spiritual director, professor, Chaplain with the American Humanist Association, and leading figure in the non-religious spirituality movement. Palmer received his Master of Divinity degree from Trinity Divinity School in Chicago, where he served as a pastor at the mega-church, Willow Creek Community Church. He was later the founding…
SUSAN COTTRELL is an international speaker whose TEDx talk, for a crowd of 5,000 at TedxMileHigh in Denver, has 1.6 million online views. OutSmart magazine calls her “The Mother of All MamaBears.” The Advocate dubs her “our favorite affirming matriarch.” She is a prominent voice for the LGBTQ+ community & their faith parents; allies; and others who…
Will is a licensed clinical social worker who currently works as a therapist in the Detroit area. Will has been married to Heather for 16 years and they have 5 kids. Will has a lifelong disability called Moebius Syndrome and is passionate about advocating for those with disabilities. Will is also passionate about helping those…
Jeff is the founder and Director of Tansmuto, a nonprofit whose mission is to help people identify and overcome barriers to happiness, hope and wholeness.Jeff teaches and coaches individuals, couples, families and organizations to apply the wisdom of the Enneagram. His professional training in the Enneagram comes from The Narrative Enneagram (TNE). He hosts the…
Sister Marcia has ministered in various capacities over the years. She coordinated a Rome renewal program for eight summers, networking with English-speaking Benedictines world- wide. Currently, she is vocation director, provides spiritual direction, and is a staff member for Souljourners, the spiritual direction training program. When time permits, she enjoys making jelly for both the…
Dr. Mark M. McNear is a Licensed Clinical Social Work and maintains a private practice in New Jersey. With over thirty years of experience in clinical practice, Dr. McNear now focuses on helping those who have had trauma, abuse, and addictions in their lives, sharing the hope of healing that he has realized in his…
Laci Bean is a Certified Trauma Recovery Coach who’s focus is Religious Trauma. Laci went from spending her teen years in a highly controlling religious cult to deconstructing herself all the way out of Christianity in her early 30’s. As she started her journey of deconstruction and healing, she began to share it on Tik…
Seth Showalter is a single gay man who is the proud father of a lively cat by the name of Lizzie. Seth works as a Therapist for a Certified Behavioral Health Organization in the Central Region of Missouri. Seth runs a mental health podcast solo called “Mental Health Uncovered” where he gives people the floor…
Dr. Paul Fitzgerald earned the Doctor of Ministry with research in internalized shame and trauma. For more than 25 years he and his wife, Susanna, have assisted people in wholehearted, authentic living through HeartConnexion Seminars. His professional training includes Inner Relationship Focusing and BioSpiritual Focusing. He is a member of the International Focusing Institute and…
Kicking off this month talking about church harm and mental health. Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert Book: The Hotel Book: Being Book: The Being Journey companion guide now! Book: Apparent Faith Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Email: Karl at karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com Twitter: @karl4hand
Karen Shock’s love for writing began when she got her first diary as a young girl. The lock and key on it made it easy for her to tell the diary some honest, dramatic, truths about herself. Even though Karen is now a 53 year old grandma, she still loves to put pen to paper…
Got to have an unstructured conversation with The Secular Tourist. We talked about our book, Out Into the Desert, atheism and organized religion. Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert Book: The Hotel Book: Being Book: The Being Journey companion guide now! Book: Apparent Faith Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Email: Karl at karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com Twitter: @karl4hand Advertisements
Being buried alive is a reality for many. It can be the expectations of family, religion, culture, friends… many things can cause us to hide who we really are, because there is no other way to fill the niche we perceive to be ours. It can take a lifetime to unearth the beauty of our…
Jory Micah has an MA in Biblical Studies and Church History. She is passionate about helping people remember that they are children of God and worth far more than accepting systems responsible for oppression, inequities and injustices. Find her on social media @jorymicah. Facebook * Instagram * Twitter Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the DesertBook:…
Ashley Easter is a cult survivor turned survivor advocate. She is the founder of Courage 365, a non-profit for abuse survivors (especially those abused in faith contexts) and a television producer focused on highlighting stories of meaning and mission. She is also an intuition life coach specializing in helping women take back their power and…
Rachelle Mitchell is known as The Hillbilly Exvangelical on Tiktok. Her content centers around helping people to be free from spiritual abuse and the oppressive religious system. She describes herself as “taking a whip to evangelicalism” and wants to make it her mission to highlight the dangers of Christian Nationalism. She also has a Facebook…
Rebekah Berndt is a writer, spiritual director, RN, and recovering activist currently based in South Carolina. She is rooted in Christianity with an interspiritual orientation and a love of magic, esotericism, and the occult. Her newsletter, The Unfolding, examines history, spirituality, ecology and social change. Find Rebekah online Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert…
We made it through Thanksgiving. So, we sat down to talk about stroke recovery and navigating the holidays. Grab your favorite drink and join us. Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert Book: The Hotel Book: Being Book: The Being Journey companion guide now! Book: Apparent Faith Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Email: Karl at karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com Twitter: @karl4hand
Jason Elam is a former local church pastor, radio broadcaster, and professional wrestler. Today, Jason helps formerly incarcerated individuals find stability in life and co-hosts The Messy Spirituality Podcast. Jason and his incredible wife, Brandi, live a life they don’t need a vacation from on Florida’s Emerald Coast with their four amazing kids. Jason and…
Part 1 of this story is Episode 203 In part 2, Kathy begins to describe what it was like when she married into a cult-like experience where fear and control caused her to enter survivor mode. She needed to get small as she tried to navigate raising 6 children with the wrong kind of support.…
Brad Jersak is an author and teacher based in Abbotsford, BC. He currently serves as the Dean of Theology & Culture at St. Stephen’s University (SSU.ca/graduate) in New Brunswick and teaches peace studies courses with IRPJ.org and is a regular speaker with the Open Table Conference crew. He writes regularly for the Clarion Journal and CWR magazine. Through his books and seminars,…
Aaron and I talk about taboos: religion and politics. Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert Book: The Hotel Book: Being Book: The Being Journey companion guide now! Book: Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s Heart Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Email: Karl at karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com Twitter: @karl4hand
Born and raised in Los Angeles, California, Austin Noll studied screenwriting at UCLA’s School of Theater, Film, and Television before moving to Austin, Texas to continue pursuing his writing endeavors. He is a first time author of the book “A Jumble of Crumpled Papers.” Though his focus has primarily been writing for the screen, his…
A native Delawarean, residing on the ceded lands of the Nanticoke and Lenape tribes, Joanne McAfee – Maldonado lives in Delaware with her husband, Carlos, and two adult children. She’s served in roles such as youth pastor, assistant pastor, Bible Study teacher, and healing ministry facilitator, but left traditional church in 2019 to follow a…
Laura and I sat down to have a conversation about spiritual life and how deep and simple our practices are now. This a list of 10 things but not in any way a prescription. Let’s keep evolving and having these discussions. Check out our new book, Out into the Desert to help do the evaluation.…
Lola is a cosmetologist from Birmingham, AL who left the Church of Christ cult in 2019. After a devastating divorce, she deconstructed her faith and began exploring new paths to grow closer to spirit. She is a co-host for The Messy Spirituality Podcast. She is currently pursuing a spiritual path filled with witchery and enlightenment.…
Sherri has been in leadership positions and ministry in Independent Baptist Churches from the time she was saved at the age of 11. her and her husband planted a church after leaving the Independent Fundamental Baptist denomination due to waking up to the spiritual abuse we both suffered from the-pulpit-to-the-pew all our lives. They desired…
Topics: Brad Jersak’s new book, Deconstructing Isn’t Easy, Important things to keep. Discussion with us and Kyle Butler Desert Sanctuary Resources Book: Out Into the Desert Book: The Hotel Book: Being Book: The Being Journey companion guide now! Book: Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s Heart Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Email: Karl at karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64 Twitter: @karl4hand
Hailey Dixon is a writer, songstress and a woman with a bone to pick with the American evangelical church. Growing up queer and with a severe mental disability, Hailey often felt rejected not only by the god she grew up with, but by the church as a whole. She escaped a cult only to be…
Our son, JD, lives and works in Taiwan. He is a teacher, podcaster and writer. We are able to have unique conversations because we have all deconstructed and experienced church life as a pastor’s family. I think you will enjoy this look into our frustration with religion and our journey and search for truth. Free…
Tracy King activates potential. For more than 20 years she has dedicated her career to designing transformational experiences. She is a master learning designer, professional development consultant, bestselling author, and owns an instructional design agency. Her work synthesizing how brains learn into a model for crafting transformational experiences has been featured on NBC, ABC, FOX,…
Dominique and Megan have survived spiritual abuse in a variety of institutional settings including a religious cult, a charismatic nondenominational church, and a Southern Baptist church. Together they founded Baptist Accountability, an online database that tracks abuse within Baptist churches. Megan works tirelessly to educate others about spiritual and sexual abuse within churches and religious…
Rev. Dr. Sheri Pallas is an author, ally, and activist. She hosts a weekly live stream, Fireside Creators, with experts and the experienced, tackling tough topics. Sheri was raised between two extremes of judgment and hate. Her father, a drug dealing ex-con once nominated to be a Grand Dragon in the KKK. Her mom was…
Emily Loggins is a religious deconstruction advocate and the creator of Feral Pastor’s Wife, a rapidly growing TikTok community of over 30,000 people. Emily uses humor and critical analysis to question high-demand religion, while creating a soft landing place for those who were brave enough to leave. Instagram * @feral_pastors_wife on Tik Tok
Kyle Butler, Aaron Tomlinson and Laura and I took some time to talk about walking a more authentic path. Can we succeed at deconstructing / evolving, even if it is extremely difficult some days
Kathy is a mom of many. A high school teacher. Former social worker, A homeschooling mom, marriage, and church – drop out. An ex-evangelical and alcoholic in recovery, in equal parts. A connoisseur of history, theology, and useless trivia. Fueled by a deep desire to validate the voices and experiences of people who, habitually, have…
Wren Margaret Grace is a neurodivergent adoptee, mother of 6, Domestic Violence survivor, chronic illness warrior, and passionate about moving Humanity through our existential crisis with the hopes of a better future for all of us, especially the future generations. Wren was raised as Independent Fundamental Baptist, graduated from a strict Bible college, and after…
We got together, one week after the book release, to celebrate. Out into the Desert was #1 for new releases for most of that time. It continues to do well. Keith Giles and Jason Elam came along for the ride! Order the book on Amazon, rate, review and tell your friends! Order Out Into the Desert…
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We are approaching 200 episodes, and seeing new faces. So, we decided to sit down and talk about this thing called The Desert Sanctuary. Th new book, Out Into the Desert, releases soon! Order Out Into the Desert Order The HotelOrder Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64Find…
The Desert Sanctuary is big fans of Snarky Faith (from snarkyfaith.com) “I’m a storyteller, seeker, sojourner, question-asker, provocateur, and radio host. The hope with Snarky Faith is to create space for questions, dialogue, and conversations centering around life, culture, and spirituality. As a former pastor, I’m tired of what American Christianity has become. It’s a…
Baptism of Children Confirmation of children Are they really old enough to commit for life to our belief system that they probably, don’t understand? How many different worldviews have they been exposed to this early in life? Won’t they be shamed if they abandon this belief system later in life? Aren’t we forcing them into…
Jason, Laura and Karl get deep real fast. Catch Jason at the Messy Spirituality Podcast. Order The HotelOrder Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64Find me on Twitter@karl4handSee our new Facebook Page: The Desert SanctuaryBook, Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s HeartBook: The Tea Shop
Everyone doesn’t agree with you, and you cant bully the rest of us into agreeing with you. Religion and politics are ripe with bulling, and it’s not always the guy stealing your lunch money. Order The Hotel Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now! Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64 Find…
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Kevin Sweeney is co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church—an urban church in Honolulu that is welcoming of all people, sees imagination as the key to the future, chooses authenticity over performance, substance over hype, and quality over quantity. He is the host of podcast “The Church Needs Therapy” and is the author of the…
Keith Giles new book releases next week! It’s going to be a game changer! Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64 Find me on Twitter @karl4handSee our new Facebook Page: The Desert SanctuaryBook, Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s HeartBook: The Tea Shop
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Rebecca Trotter is a mom, writer, thinker, talker, teacher, Christian and odd duck. She writes about God’s upside down kingdom, Christian spirituality and enjoying life when it’s hard. We talked about trauma, church and thriving outside organized religion. She also talked about her mission to advocate and use her unique voice to speak loud for…
Aaron Tomlinson joins us to explore these three words. Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s HeartBook: The Tea Shop
Joined with Derrick Day to talk about how church and pastors promote abuse Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s HeartBook: The Tea Shop
We decided to talk about my latest books Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s HeartBook: The Tea Shop
Guest host Joe Machuta, Karl and Laura, Kyle Butler and Aaron discuss. Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s HeartBook: The Tea Shop
What is it about organized religion that is dangerous? Jason Elam and Karl and Laura discuss their experience with hurt in their ministry experience. Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What…
Aaron Tomlinson joins us to talk about issues with the church and how we handle trauma. Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/ https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find me on Twitter· See our new Facebook Page: The Desert Sanctuary· Book, Apparent Faith: What Fatherhood Taught Me About the Father’s HeartBook: The…
What do you say or do when someone is going through difficult times? Karl recently had a stroke and through it all, we are learning some helpful things to do and say. We stress we are learning because we have not always done the right things when others in our lives have been in the…
Which of the services of the church are still necessary? This week we talk with co-host, Kyle Butler. Jason Elam has graciously organized a fundraiser for my stroke recovery. Please decide if you can donate, share or help in another way. This is going to be a long journey and we are committed to it.…
It was good to get together with Aaron Tomlinson to talk about the Main Thing. In most churches, it’s usually expressed at Evangelism, but usually practiced as the marketing end of the organization. We talked about what truly must become the main thing for us here in the desert. It was a little different for…
Jason steps in to help us talk about being addicted to church. Organized religion is designed to attract people. It IS addictive. Then Monday, the high wears off and we start pre-using, dreaming about going back. Of course we like it, just like I used to like sodas-I was addicted to it. We took Cindy…
So, here we go! This begins our serious on our soon-to be published book, “Out Into the Desert.” The subtitle of the book is Thriving Outside Organized Religion. It is not an attack on religion, it is a review, mostly of Christianity. It is also some of our experience as pastors for 20 years. The…
The five of us: Laura Forehand, Jason Elam, Aaron Tomlinson, Kyle Butler and Karl Forehand talk about authenticity. All four of us were pastors and told to follow our calling, but that really meant becoming what people wanted us to do, since God’s will was interpreted through people. In this episode we talk about what…
That’s right, we’re taking a break from social media for the month of December. Email us or send s a text if you really need to tell us something. We may not check it very often. karl4hand@gmail.com lauraforehand64@karl4hand Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/· https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if…
So grateful for Kyle being willing to talk to us once a month. His wisdom and insight is powerful at times. Once again, we go inside and talk about real healing Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide now!Website: https://karlforehand.com/· https://ratethispodcast.com/thedesertsanctuary· Message us at any time if you have questions: karl4hand@gmail.com or Laura at lauraforehand64@gmail.com· Find…
I love every conversation I have with Jason Elam. I attempted to interview him, but he is good at turning questions around. Even though we are the best of friends, we don’t see everything exactly the same, but we usually end up talking about organized religion. Order Being or the The Being Journey companion guide…
No matter what we call our journey, it is necessary to face our woundedness. We talk with Aaron again about how that happens. This is all things shadow and inner child. The time went quickly and we probably just scratched the surface, but enjoy! Remember, we are taking off the month of December. Look for…
We’ve been waiting a while to talk to Dallas Verity. He and Blair have had some amazing interviews on their podcast, Shipwreck Over Safety. But we got to know them more through our conversations on various broadcasts over the years including The Desert Sanctuary. When I knew we were going to talk, I kept seeing…
Jared Byas is co-host of the popular podcast The Bible for Normal People and co-author of the book Genesis for Normal People. As a former teaching pastor and professor of Philosophy & Biblical Studies, he speaks regularly on the Bible, truth, creativity, wisdom, and the Christian faith. He and his wife, Sarah, live outside Philadelphia,…
Recently we were asked to contribute to a parenting book. Now that we are grandparents, we can at least summarize what worked for us and what didn’t. Parenting is a daunting task with many confusing voices offering their opinion on what might work. In the end, the best we can do is follow our heart…
So, Karl why don’t you just leave religion alone and pursue what you want to pursue? Because religion is part of my roots and religion affects people. I know that people involved in organized religion don’t have evil intentions, but the system is systemically inadequate to deal with the trauma that it often creates. Please…
Dawn Schale joins us and Kyle on our regular monthly episode. The answer to everything today was to look inside and find what brings you joy? The four of us had different experiences in Christianity, but we all agreed that it erased boundaries and focused our purpose away from ourselves. In the process, we lost…
Some Christians like to imagine they are under attack, but maybe they are under review. This week we talk about a comment Karl heard on TicToc from Pastor Joseph Yoo. We also talk about Vulnerability and Bravery and a quote from Brene Brown. It’s always good to talk to Jason! Order Being or the The…
The Desert Sanctuary 