64 – Jason and Karl – Part 1 – Church

Jason Elam, of the Messy Spirituality Podcast, and I got together to talk about a couple of things. We didn’t have nearly enough time, but we figured we would package it in bite-sized segments. This is JOINT PODCAST that will probably air on both stations.

This is directly from our hearts!

PART 1 is about church and how our views have changed over the years. It is not to discredit those that find what they need there, we just wanted to discuss what we are discovering now that we view the church from outside the walls.

Hope you enjoy the discussion – I’m exhausted!


Find Jason HERE



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