65 – Jason and Karl – Part 2 – Going Deep

Over the past few years, I have had the privileged of having some great guides lead me on a journey of healing. Most often, the wounds in our life were inflicted by people that genuinely cared for us and by our own stubborn strategies that didn’t work and only made it worse. In a addition to a guide, I think it’s also important to have a good friend.

Jason and I have very similar stories, so we decided to get vulnerable and talk about our stories without any reservations. If we would have done it in any other way, it would have seemed phony and that is probably why I’ve avoided having him on the podcast for so long. This is probably what we longed for all those years as a pastor — to be vulnerable – to have real friends – and to find real healing!

Enter at your own risk!


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